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Baby Nellie · Sep 22, 2010, 04:37 AM // 04:37

Name: Baby Nellie
Art Form: Cake, icing and hand formed candy.
Idea: Mad King Thorn and his Candy Corn Guard.
Progress Gallery: http://i51.tinypic.com/bjaeea.jpg
Artbook Award: [x]
Official Contest: [x] I'm really aiming for this, but since I can try them all.

-checks all-
Workshop Awards: [x]

Wont win anything, but it was FUN making it!!

Charlie Dayman · Sep 22, 2010, 06:34 AM // 06:34

Had a sudden burst of ideas and replaced the Vabbian kids with two kid-Gwens. Now it's even closer to the original content, and just as hilariously disturbing. Seriously, that scene still scares the crap out of me.

I don't think I'll be putting in Thorn smack dab in the center of the piece behind the Gwens. I want to try and keep this piece as close to the scene as possible, but with a GW vibe to it. Also, I don't really want to draw the attention away from Gwen's stare. So instead, I'll be making a rustic/cheesy MKT wall paper that decorates the halls these two are in. Something like Thorn's pumpkin head adorning the walls.

DO IT.

Operative 14 · Sep 22, 2010, 06:42 AM // 06:42

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Oh jeeze charlie, I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight. >_<

Charlie Dayman · Sep 22, 2010, 06:45 AM // 06:45

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Oh jeeze charlie, I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight. >_<

Then my job here is done.

But you're right, there is something very unsettling about that sketch I made. Probably because Lefty has no eyes, and Righty's face is sunken in.

KRITZ ME DOCKTOR:

Kiya: That's pretty awesome. Dunno if you're still having trouble painting it, but maybe shaving off parts of the paper to give it that proper pumpkin texture? Maybe giving it a bit more surface texture can help bring out the paint even further. Dunno if that's feasible or not since I'm not sure how delicate the head is dried.

Raven: Very nice, I like the gesture and look to her. Though with her right arm being pulled back, her right breast should be slightly pulled back as well. And I say slightly since she's wearing a corset, and that should keep her business well in place. But we should be able to see a bit of her sternum with the posture she's taking.

Also, her right leg seems too long at the upper thigh. We should be able to see the knee joint under or around the first horizontal stocking line. The same can be said about her left leg, though her knee joint would be different since her weight is shifting to that side.

Usk: Lookin' good so far. At the moment, I'd just say maybe smooth and even out the shading on some parts. Other than that, keep on keepin' on.

KJ: Dark satire sounds fun, and would be a nice change from all the usual playful/happy kind of stuff.

Mina: I think a light or mid sort of poison green would work. Your Grasping Dead idea came out really cool as well as those background textures. Looks kind of Kurzicky.

Tommy: As mentioned, it is a bit dark. But if that's what you're going for and don't want to brighten the entire thing, I'd say intensify the lighting on the girl. I think if you push the lighting far enough, there will be enough information there for you not to re-work the whole thing.

Operative: I thought Thorn was giving me the finger, which is something I could see him doing. What you've got done so far looks good. Though I'm a little confused at his ribcage. At the moment, his ribcage is shooting straight into his pelvis. Naturally, the bottom ribs are raised well above the pelvis.

Since he's leaning back, they should be taking more of a "cylinder" type of shape. I'm getting the impression that his shoulders and chest are pull back, but his abs are unnaturally vertically locked in place. Just give them more of a rounded upwards shape and pull them off the hips a bit, and you should be good.

Ravenhawk · Sep 22, 2010, 11:33 AM // 11:33

Charlie..didn't you learn that ONE GWEN is more than enough *wails*

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Raven: Very nice, I like the gesture and look to her. Though with her right arm being pulled back, her right breast should be slightly pulled back as well. And I say slightly since she's wearing a corset, and that should keep her business well in place. But we should be able to see a bit of her sternum with the posture she's taking.

Also, her right leg seems too long at the upper thigh. We should be able to see the knee joint under or around the first horizontal stocking line. The same can be said about her left leg, though her knee joint would be different since her weight is shifting to that side.

*hug* Thank you so much! I 'll work on those tonight. Here's my progress last night..now you see the whole pic. Was hesitant to show at first because it wont be much of a surprise but I am here to learn (and help other artists) so I'd like to show my progress as much as I can and get feedback:

Tommy's · Sep 22, 2010, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Her expression is priceless :3 I assume its gonna be a kitty under the table? Make it a dirty ugly kitty with a scar on its eye (like scar from the lion king

) At least thats what come to my mind straight away when I see those eyes. The moon outside is a nice touch! Perhabs you could try to work out a bit better what kind of skull it is. I can't think of anything in guildwars with such teeth and horns.

Ravenhawk · Sep 22, 2010, 01:49 PM // 13:49

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Originally Posted by Tommy's

Her expression is priceless :3 I assume its gonna be a kitty under the table? Make it a dirty ugly kitty with a scar on its eye (like scar from the lion king

) At least thats what come to my mind straight away when I see those eyes. The moon outside is a nice touch! Perhabs you could try to work out a bit better what kind of skull it is. I can't think of anything in guildwars with such teeth and horns.

Thanks! Yeah that's supposed to be a kitty. When I was almost done with the sketch I noticed that blank space underneath the table..so..yeah cat eyes immediately came to mind.

I love that scary kitty suggestion. At first I was thinking of just cat eyes but I might actually need to draw it a little bit depending on the lighting (right now I just think the moon and from the candle..possibly something from the dagger and that would be the main light source for the cat).

The skull she's holding is a Charr skull (I basically looked up lion/tiger skull and put horns on it). The one on the table is a Mergoyle skull..couldn't make up the teeth so I kinda improvised on that part and made it slightly bigger >_>

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Mergoyle_Skull

Forgot to mention that I got a critique from Murke/kalinotora in DeviantArt about the arm being too bendy (if that's even a word) so I fixed that part as well. So cheers to her!

Keep those critiques coming and I'll work on them tonight ^_^

And some comments:

Tommy - Liking the progress so far. For the backdrop, how about a sillhouette of mountains/structures (depending on her location) and the sky being more like this one:

Cos I think the GW Halloween moon dude would overshadow the pumpkin face.

Charlie - no comment. really..NO COMMENT. I am still creeped out by those Gwens..Kidding aside, it looks amazing.

Koreena - You are an all around talented artist! I really can't say much but..Wow. I love the color on the pumpkin head. It's very spot on.

Minami - I love the cavern/spidey web look. I also like Charliepai's suggestion of a green light coming from the skellies.

Karate Jesus · Sep 22, 2010, 02:14 PM // 14:14

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Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman

KJ: Dark satire sounds fun, and would be a nice change from all the usual playful/happy kind of stuff.

Cool, then I'll aim around there. I'm planning on trying to write the story in a way that is more deceptive to the reader, but still dark and twisted. Hopefully, it'll come together well.

I need to work on the art that I'm going to put with it, though :/

Charlie Dayman · Sep 22, 2010, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Tzu or whoever else might me managing this thread, I finally got the link to my progress gallery here. I'll try to get some digital stuff done later this weekend, but class projects hold priority at the moment.

http://s1181.photobucket.com/albums/x422/charliedayman/

Eragon Zarroc · Sep 22, 2010, 07:20 PM // 19:20

creepy charlie....CREEPY! O_O

Zodiac Meteor · Sep 22, 2010, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman

Tzu or whoever else might me managing this thread, I finally got the link to my progress gallery here. I'll try to get some digital stuff done later this weekend, but class projects hold priority at the moment.

http://s1181.photobucket.com/albums/x422/charliedayman/

Needs more broken flute!

Ravenhawk · Sep 23, 2010, 11:19 AM // 11:19

Adjusted the chest based on Charliepai's suggestion. Uhm, I couldn't figure out the knee thing Charlie. I looked at my mesmer in GW and the knee is way below the stockings. Halp!

(yeah I didnt do much last night ..tried to draw the cat and failed miserably >_>)

Charlie Dayman · Sep 23, 2010, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Ravenhawk

Adjusted the chest based on Charliepai's suggestion. Uhm, I couldn't figure out the knee thing Charlie. I looked at my mesmer in GW and the knee is way below the stockings. Halp!

(yeah I didnt do much last night ..tried to draw the cat and failed miserably >_>)

Later tonight, I'll try and do an overlay of an anatomical outline for you. I'm guessing you're having trouble with the stocking placement because you'd need to move the bottom of the skirt upwards. Then you correct the anatomy and hitch up the stockings.

But the chest looks good and definitely fits her posture better.

Ravenhawk · Sep 23, 2010, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by Charlie Dayman

Later tonight, I'll try and do an overlay of an anatomical outline for you. I'm guessing you're having trouble with the stocking placement because you'd need to move the bottom of the skirt upwards. Then you correct the anatomy and hitch up the stockings.

But the chest looks good and definitely fits her posture better.

*hug*

I can't thank you enough! I really appreciate it especially knowing how busy you are these days.

I am glad I got the chest right at least ^^ I'll probably spend more time on the drawing tonight. I only spent about 30 minutes on it yesterday. It kinda sucks because I get all my motivation to draw during daytime while at work and I can't do anything about it.

Minami · Sep 24, 2010, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Raven, I can't wait to see your finished pic, it looks very promising! Charlie's suggestion helped your pic too, looking better and better! ^_^

Here's my progress so far... everything is still taking ages to draw, but at least I learned a few key shortcuts by now

Also discovered some things that are obvious to other PS users so I won't list them here. ^_^

Here's my pic (note, I removed the skele arms and BG for now):

Zodiac Meteor · Sep 24, 2010, 01:49 AM // 01:49

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Originally Posted by Minami

Raven, I can't wait to see your finished pic, it looks very promising! Charlie's suggestion helped your pic too, looking better and better! ^_^

Here's my progress so far... everything is still taking ages to draw, but at least I learned a few key shortcuts by now

Also discovered some things that are obvious to other PS users so I won't list them here. ^_^

Here's my pic (note, I removed the skele arms and BG for now):

Ooo, witches hat anyone?

Minami · Sep 24, 2010, 02:06 AM // 02:06

I was trying to think whether to put a witch's hat on her actually

I like Mina's original hair and headpiece a lot though, so I'm undecided on that as of right now.

Any opinions on that?

Usk Delt · Sep 24, 2010, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Nice progress everyone O.o!

@Raven: Really nice progress I love the pose and the face of your pic. Hope evreything goes right after charlie anatomy outline

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@Minami: Nice coloring and use of shades

, I suggest you to add more brightness on the metal armor that its front of the light source, since its metal the brightness and shades are really exagerated. As you can see here:

(The image its not mine, its from a very usefull digital painting tutorial :http://itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm , really usefull.)

Another recomendation would be to add some borders on the armor becouse it looks like razors.

And heres my progress so far:

I smudged more zones and fixed some errors

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Charlie Dayman · Sep 24, 2010, 03:19 AM // 03:19

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Originally Posted by Ravenhawk

*hug*

I can't thank you enough! I really appreciate it especially knowing how busy you are these days.

I am glad I got the chest right at least ^^ I'll probably spend more time on the drawing tonight. I only spent about 30 minutes on it yesterday. It kinda sucks because I get all my motivation to draw during daytime while at work and I can't do anything about it.

I've had to look at dead human bodies this past week, and I need to take it out on someone. Raven, I'm looking at you.

I re-worked the anatomy and came across a few other, but easy to solve, problems. You'll have to bring down the head and shorten the length on both of her arms. But since you've only got the line-art down, it shouldn't be a big hassle.

From what I understand, she is in a contrapposto stance - basically the artsy fartsy word for a non-symmetrical relief stance where weight is shifted to one side. The side being her left. I went in and added in the curvature of where there would be a definite change in the musculature due to her shifting sides. The blue arrows and circles denote where you should really emphasize that change in line direction or indication of weight. This pushes the idea that she's leaning on her left side or that some form of movement is taking place.

Keep in mind that this is strictly the anatomy of a nude female body. Your drawing is obviously going to be clothed, and won't have that exact line definition where the muscles merge. You can definitely even them out - but just try to follow the general movement. Also, she doesn't have to be that muscular either - it's just a bit of an exaggeration to show you the overall form and "what meets where".

Minami · Sep 24, 2010, 03:59 AM // 03:59

Usk, thanks!

What do you mean by "adding more border"?

I'll try and see how I get along with drawing metallic material.

Never tried it before.